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Recycling schemes have taken a very public battering in recent weeks. But,
as Veolia’s Paul Levett tells Simeon Goldstein, there are
plenty of ways public confidence can be regained.
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A converted church in
north London is not the first place you’d go looking for a waste
management company. But it is not entirely inappropriate given the
coverage in the national media and the images of stockpiled waste
destroying people’s faith in recycling.
While the entire sector has hit back at the press and defended the
state of reprocessing in the UK, there are diverging views about how
to further develop waste collections. A quality product is obviously
key, but the way to achieving that quality is contested.
The question, it seems, is should we
co-mingle, or not co-mingle? |
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Veolia
Environmental Services deputy chief executive
Paul Levett |
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It’s against this background that Packaging News has secured an
exclusive interview with Paul Levett, deputy chief executive director of
Veolia Environmental Services, located in the aforementioned church on Pentonville Road.
Levett is unrepentant
in his defence of co-mingled
collections, and sorting at a materials reprocessing facility (MRF), as
the best way to improve recycling in the UK. In most circumstances, the
co-mingled route is the preferred option for collecting waste as you’ll
definitely get a higher yield, he says.
Levett says that the stockpiling of material happens at peak times of the
year as most MRFs are located in urban areas – so as to be close to the
waste – and consequently are short of space. In terms of volumes,
immediately after Christmas would be the peak time. And there’s also the
fact that the materials are of a different mix than during the rest of the
year, meaning we need to recalibrate some of the equipment.
Nonetheless, Levett is convinced that co-mingled collections will be the
most effective way to meet European recycling targets of 50% by 2010 – the
UK currently recycles around 34% – because it makes it easy for consumers.
To get to 34%, without underplaying the efforts that have been made, it’s
been about converting the believers. To get to 50%, and beyond, we have to
convince the agnostics; those people who don’t really care about
recycling, he says.
Collection confusion
Confronting a household with seven different-coloured boxes is confusing,
he suggests. And there is also the question about what happens if the box
that is due for collection on a Friday is full by Tuesday.
With
co-mingled, all you need is one bin for recycled material and one for
residual waste. There is also the health and safety aspect for the waste
collectors. Large containers mean our operators have to cross the road
less, and wheelie bins don’t need to be lifted as the lorry takes care of
it, he says.
Veolia Environmental Services has around 180 refuse collection, recycling
and street cleaning contracts with local authorities and waste disposal
authorities across the country. It also has a number of energy from waste
and composting facilities, and has been heavily involved in the setting of
up of the Closed Loop London recycling plant in Dagenham.
Levett argues that a greater degree of standardisation across different
areas of the country would make things easier. It’s difficult to believe
that we need hundreds of variations, although imposing national standards
on local politicians probably wouldn’t be popular, he says.
He adds that having a range of services is also a missed opportunity to
consolidate reprocessing, particularly if a county council is responsible
for disposing of waste from a number of collecting district authorities.
If each district in an area does things differently, when it comes to
reprocessing you’re not going to get economies of scale and the lowest
cost solution. You can’t build a single MRF, because the inputs are all
different, says Levett.
Plastics push
One of the most confusing types of packaging for consumers to recycle is
the wide variety of plastics. Levett believes this is another argument for
co-mingled. If we can say they can put any plastic food container in the
box, it would improve yields, so would reduced use of multiple polymers in
a single pack, which are almost impossible to economically separate, he
says. Of course, accepting all plastics would require changes to be made
at the MRFs, and the timing is not great as material prices are low at the
moment. We need to wait for prices to recover, which should happen this
year, although they are unlikely to return to the levels at the start of
2008.
Another possible development could be the introduction of colour-sorting
technology for glass, suggests Levett, although the price has got to be
right. If the financial case was strong enough to go down the better
environmental route, companies like ours would be keen to invest in the
technology, he says.
Colour separation of glass is about generating good quality material for
reprocessing – a point on which the co-mingled and
single-stream
collection lobbies agree.
Levett suggests that quality is set to be an
even more important issue as higher levels of recycling increase the
supply of recovered materials, allowing buyers to become more selective.
However, he believes it is commercial factors, rather than quality, that
are driving support for single-stream collections. Co-mingled tends to be
processed through MRFs and for the export market. If it doesn’t go through
a MRF it would be a cheaper input for paper mills, for example, which are
strong supporters of single-stream collections, he says.
Levett believes the current negative view of waste collections is due to
the press taking a couple of issues and blowing them out of proportion.
And his biggest concern is the amount of misinformation about waste
the
public takes as gospel. Everyone understands the benefits of recycling.
But if people think they go to the trouble to clean and sort their waste
and it then gets dumped in landfill, then they’re quite rightly concerned,
says Levett. No-one in the waste sector would dispute that. The problem is
getting the media to sing from a different hymn sheet.
SINGLE-MINDED
The bottom line is co-mingled collections, as they are currently
being carried out, do not produce materials of a good quality
for
reprocessors, and the current stockpiling is a stark testimony to that,
says Phil Hurst, spokesman for the
Campaign for Real Recycling (CRR).
CRR’s aim is to convince central and local government that the best way to
ensure high quality materials are reprocessed is through investment in
source-separated collections, whereby waste is separated at the kerbside.
Hurst says that, despite the economic slowdown, the market for certain
materials is holding up well. There’s a problem in steel, but other metals
are not doing so badly. Paper mills are working and a large number are set
to come on line this year. But they want a certain level of quality, and
if they can’t get it here they’ll look overseas, he says.
Hurst says the media reports of stockpiling of materials are dissuading
people from putting waste for collection, but that source-separated
materials wouldn’t be stockpiled. People are thinking that they don’t need
to bother recycling because the waste is not reprocessed, he adds.
CRR is also keen to dispel the image of source-sorted recycling
as
requiring a lot of different bins. It’s usually two bins, and the material
is separated by the side of the road. You don’t need to separate and
eco-police and people can’t say it’s not being treated as valuable
material, adds Hurst.
Hurst agrees with Veolia’s Levett that recycling would benefit from
greater standardisation, but that the needs of the reprocessor should be
the starting point on which the system is based. The nuances of why your
neighbour has a different system to you are lost on the general public,
and there’s definitely a case to narrow the range of collections
available.
ENERGETIC DEBATE
While the UK seems sold on recycling, whether single-stream
or co-mingled,
there is much less support for energy-from-waste (EfW) facilities, which
Levett puts down to people associating EfW with incinerators from 40 to 50
years ago.
Veolia has six energy recovery plants in the UK, with a total capacity of
1.4m tonnes a year. And the firm is keen to point out
that current
regulations for emissions from incinerators are probably much tighter than
any other comparable sector.
For waste that can’t be recycled, EfW makes a lot of sense and the energy
security argument is a very strong one, says Levett. But it’s unpopular as
nobody wants to live next to a waste facility of any sort.

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